HomeKit Over Thread With HomePod mini and Eve
A smart home without any limitations: discover how HomePod mini, Eve and Thread bring your smart home to the next level.
HomePod mini is Apple’s new powerful smart speaker and most affordable home hub yet, with built-in Siri intelligence that provides quick and easy access to smart home accessories. That's not only great news for conveniently controlling your connected home, but also for reliability: HomePod mini adds mesh networking functionality to HomeKit, built on Thread. This cutting-edge technology was developed specifically for a responsive, robust, and secure smart home. A Bluetooth-equipped HomeKit accessory can now optionally offer Thread connectivity, making it even more powerful.
Eve is All Systems Go.
Many Eve accessories on sale today are equipped with the latest generation Eve Core chipsets, which can support Thread. Thread-enabled firmware updates will become available this month for current Eve Door & Window and European Eve Energy models. We expect to be able to offer free firmware updates for the current generation of Eve Aqua and Eve Thermo soon and we’re working on bringing Thread technology to more Eve accessories going forward.
Discover here if your Eve accessory supports Thread
Bluetooth Remains. Thread Enhances.
Bluetooth is required for HomeKit over Thread, so Bluetooth remains available and your accessories continue to work as they always have. Now, as soon as you add HomePod mini to your home, your Thread-enabled Eve accessories will also be able to communicate over Thread. This happens automatically without you needing to configure anything, and it brings some immediate benefits:
Thread is based on the universally deployed Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) standard, making it extremely robust. A Thread network does not rely on a central hub, such as a bridge, so there’s no single point of failure. And Thread has the ability to self-heal – if one node (or accessory in your Thread network) becomes unavailable, the data packets will select an alternate route automatically and the network simply continues to work. And while Wi-Fi and Bluetooth networks tend to become somewhat unreliable and challenging to manage with a large number of accessories connected, a Thread network will scale up easily and actually become more robust with every new accessoy.
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth coverage of your home can be extended by adding repeaters and additional dedicated hardware such as home hubs or Eve Extend to increase the range of HomeKit-enabled Bluetooth accessories. A Thread network expands pretty much automatically as you add more accessories. As an example, if your Eve Aqua is beyond the reach of your HomePod mini, an Eve Energy somewhere in the middle could connect the Eve Aqua to the Thread network. This is the power of Thread´s mesh networking: it is completely automatic, fully interoperable, and involves zero configuration.
Thread also paves the way for many future improvements. Among them: HomeKit-enabled accessories will be able to talk to each other over IPv6, thereby opening up a host of new applications especially for battery powered accessories. Thread has extremely low power consumption, so we’re expecting to see a considerable increase in battery life over the next years. On top of all this, Thread – alongside Wi-Fi and Bluetooth – is a pillar of the upcoming Matter standard, which is another reason why you’re future-proof with Eve.
The Future Is HomePod Mini – Not Bridges.
HomePod mini is your key to enable your HomeKit accessories to communicate over Thread. Apart from that, you don’t need anything else: no proprietary bridges or gateways, and no starter kits. With HomePod mini and Thread-equipped Eve accessories, enjoy the smart home of the future – today.
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Hello Lee! The current generation of Eve Light Switch (US) is not ready for Thread. We will be releasing new hardware generations of many Eve devices with Thread support within the next months, but unfortunately can't give any further details on when this will be the case for Eve Light Switch (US) at this time.Here's a list of all the currently available Thread-enabled Eve accessories:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Best regards, Volker
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Hallo eve Team,wie sieht es denn mit Thread Unterstützung für Euren Window Guard aus? Ist da etwas zu erwarten?
Vielen Dank, Andy
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Hallo Andy!Die aktuelle Generation von Eve Window Guard ist nicht für Thread vorbereitet. Wir werden innerhalb der nächsten Monate und des nächsten Jahres neue Hardware-Generationen vieler Eve-Geräte mit Thread-Unterstützung veröffentlichen, können aber zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt noch leider keine weiteren Angaben dazu machen, wann dies für Eve Window Guard der Fall sein wird.Hier ist eine Liste mit allen momentan verfügbaren Thread-fähigen Eve-Geräten:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Viele Grüße, Volker
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Hi, Will the Eve smoke get a Thread software update or does it need a hardware update first? And when is it due?- Reply
Hello Michael! The current generation of Eve Smoke is not ready for Thread. We will be releasing new hardware generations of many Eve devices with Thread support within the next months, but unfortunately can't give any further details on when this will be the case for Eve Smoke at this time.Here's a list of all the currently available Thread-enabled Eve accessories:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Best regards, Volker
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Hi Volker, Eve Smoke looks to be out of stock everywhere, any news on an updated Thread compatible version yet?- Reply
Hello Jon! Due to extreme delivery constraints this product isn’t available for sale anywhere at this time. A new shipment is expected within the next few months. Unfortunately, we're neither able to provide a more specific delivery date, nor any further details on future products or the time frame of their release. For news and updates please sign up for our newsletterhttps://www.evehome.com/en/newsletter
Thank you again and have a nice day.
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Hi. 3 months ago you said Eve Smoke was about to be available. Can you update us on when we will be able to buy more of these? Thanks- Reply
Hi Ian! Still the same answer you replied to. Please subscribe to the newsletter. Best regards, Volker- Reply
Hallo liebes EVE-Team!Habe hier zwei EVE Energy, die schon Thread können, allerdings fehlte mir bisher der Bordet-Router (wie ein HomePod Mini). Jetzt hab ich von Nanoleaf die Shapes, die mit einem Firmware-Update ebenfalls Thread-kompatibel gemacht wurden und jetzt als Border-Router fungieren können sollen. Leider finde ich weder in der Nanoleaf- noch in Eurer EVE-App die jeweils anderen Geräte. Die beiden Energy-Steckdosen zeigen leider in der EVE-App auch nur an, dass sie per Bluetooth funken und Thread deaktiviert sei. Wie kann ich das ändern und endlich ein Thread-Netzwerk aufbauen oder habe ich irgendwas übersehen???
Danke für Eure Hilfe!
LG,
Carsten
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Hallo Carsten!Mit der neuen Firmware erlaubt Nanoleaf es anderen Geräte-Herstellern, mittels einer eigener API sich ins Nanoleaf-Thread-Netzwerk zu verbinden. Allerdings gibt es dafür (noch) keinen Support von Apple. D.h. es gibt kein dynamisches wechseln zwischen Thread und Bluetooth wenn Thread ausfällt.
Das mag sich im Laufe der Zeit mit iOS 15 ändern, das wissen wir aber nicht.
Die einzigen Thread Border Router für HomeKit sind aktuell der HomePod mini und das neue Apple TV 4K (2021)
Viele Grüße, Volker
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Gibt es schon einen Zeithorizont, wann man mit einer Thread-fähigen Neuauflage von Eve Room rechnen kann?- Reply
Hallo Andreas! Über künftige Produkte und Produktentwicklungen darf ich leider nicht sprechen, ich bitte um Verständnis. Ich wünsche Ihnen ein schönes Wochenende, Volker- Reply
Hi, I know I'm not the first to ask, however after 6 months its worth asking again - is there a trade-in / recycle program planned? If not, can you add one please? ;-)I have 8 Eve Energy (UK) bought during a promotion last Christmas, just before the Thread compatible versions were available - they work great other than not supporting Thread, however my home setup would really benefit from adding a Thread mesh network! Recycling the internals would be a nice eco-friendly approach... :-)
All the best, --John
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Hello John! I am sorry, but we won't have any trade in programm for older models of Eve Energy (UK), sorry. Best regards, Volker- Reply
Wird Eve Motion 2. Generation (2017) Thread unterstützen oder wird es hierzu eine 3. Generation geben? Wenn ja wann ist die Unterstützung bzw. das neue Modell geplant?- Reply
Hallo Paul! Die aktuelle Generation von Eve Motion ist nicht für Thread vorbereitet. Wir werden im Verlaufe dder nächsten Monate neue Hardware-Generationen vieler Eve-Geräte mit Thread-Unterstützung veröffentlichen, können aber zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt noch leider keine weiteren Angaben dazu machen, wann dies für Eve Motion der Fall sein wird.Hier ist eine Liste mit allen momentan verfügbaren Thread-fähigen Eve-Geräten:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
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Hi, I have an apple HomePod mini, an Eve Energy (UK) 20EBT8601 with firmware 2.1.1 (2854), and an Eve Weather 20EBS9901. I would like to use them on thread, with the Energy extending the range for the Weather which is placed outside. At the moment both the Energy and the Weather show as ‘thread disabled’ in the Eve Home app and are connecting using Bluetooth - this causes the Eve Weather to be out of range of the HomePod. How to I get them to use thread? Thank you- Reply
Hello Tom! This is a typical support question, please use our support system next time:https://www.evehome.com/en/support/ticket - thank you
The Eve Energy (UK) can extend the Thread network but ist must be in range to the HomePod mini, best is half way to the Eve Weather. Best regards, Volker
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Hallo. Kann jedes Gerät, das Thread-fähig ist, das Signal auch an andere Geräte weiter leiten? Also z.B. auch von einem Eve-Thermo zum nächsten Eve-Thermo? Oder können das nur manche. Ich habe hier immer nur von Eve-Energy gelesen, welches das Signal weiter leiten kann an z.B. Eve Thermo...- Reply
Hallo Carsten! Batterie-betriebenen Geräte mit thread Unterstützung sind in einem Thread-Netzwerk immer Endpunkte, können ein Signal nicht weiterleiten. Das können nur Strom-versorgte wie Eve Energy (EU) oder Eve Light Switch (EU). Lies bitte den Blog-Post zum Verständnis: https://www.evehome.com/de/blog/durchleuchte-dein-thread-netzwerkViele Grüße, Volker
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Hi. What means “Coming Soon” ? Thread for Eve Thermo.Thanks
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Hello Petcu! It means very soon now. Best regards, Volker- Reply
Je viens d’acheter 3 contacteurs de porte Eve dernière génération (possédant thread), et bien le maillage ne fonctionne pas pour l’instant. Il y a à peine 6m entre chaque élément, le dernier contacteur situé sur le portail est ne répond pas …- Reply
Bonjour, veuillez lire ma réponse détaillée dans le courriel que je viens de vous envoyer depuis notre site de support technique.- Reply
Pareil mon Ève door ne fonctionne pas lorsque je suis à l’extérieur pourtant j’ai un home mini dans la pièce- Reply
Bonjour. Merci de créer un ticket de support technique sur notre site web : https://www.evehome.com/fr/support/ticket- Reply
Werden Sie Upgrade/Tausch-Angebote für die Thread-Versionen von Geräten anbieten (wie sie es bei Version 1+2 einiger Geräte gemacht haben)?- Reply
Hallo Joachim! Es wird keine Tausch-Angebote geben zu Thread-Versionen der Eve-Geräte, sorry. Es gab übrigens nur einmal befristet eine solche Aktion für das Eve Thermo (2015). Viele Grüße, Volker- Reply
Hallo. Ich habe mein AppleTV im Speicher stehen. Durch mehrere EveEnergy reicht mein Thread Netzwerk bis in den Keller. Wenn ich im Keller jetzt ein WaterGuard einrichte… kann er sich mit Bluetooth mit einer EveEnergy verbinden, die dann die Verbindung über die anderen Thread Geräte an den AppleTV weiterleitet? Oder muss der WaterGuard direkt das AppleTV mit Bluetooth erreichen können?Danke ;-)
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Hallo Tilo! Das geht grundsätzlich leider nicht. Im Mesh-Netzwerk können nur Thread-fähige Geräte miteinander kommunizieren. Die aktuelle Generation von Eve Water Guard ist nicht für Thread vorbereitet. Wir werden im Verlaufe des Jahres neue Hardware-Generationen vieler Eve-Geräte mit Thread-Unterstützung veröffentlichen, können aber zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt noch leider keine weiteren Angaben dazu machen, wann dies für Eve Water Guard der Fall sein wird.Hier ist eine Liste mit allen momentan verfügbaren Thread-fähigen Eve-Geräten:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Viele Grüße, Volker
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Hello, I just bought a nano leaf bulb and home pod mini. Both are in different rooms.Wall is concrete.
In eve app I can only see the bulb as thread router but not the HomePod mini
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Hello Mukul! The HomePod mini will only be displayed in the app Eve in Thread Network once a powered Thread enabled accessory from Eve is installed. This would be the actual model of Eve Energy (EU/UK/US). You Thread network will of cause work even without. Best regards, volker- Reply
Hi, Any news on a release date for a new eve motion with Thread?Thanks!! Paul
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Hello Paul! The current generation of Eve Motion is not ready for Thread. We will be releasing new hardware generations of many Eve devices with Thread support later this year, but unfortunately can't give any further details on when this will be the case for Eve Motion at this time.Here's a list of all the currently available Thread-enabled Eve accessories:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Best regards, Volker
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Hi Volker,Any news on the Eve motion with thread yet please?
Thanks Paul
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Hello Paul, as I said I do not have any schedule here. Best, Volker- Reply
I'm also looking for the eve motion with thread. I'd be very happy when this becomes available.- Reply
Is Thread support coming to the Eve Light Switch (NA)? I’m interested in adding a few to my home but do not want to purchase until I can get a Thread compatible version.- Reply
Hello Tim! The current generation of Eve Light Switch (US) is not ready for Thread. We will be releasing new hardware generations of many Eve devices with Thread support later this year, but unfortunately can't give any further details on when this will be the case for Eve Light Switch (US) at this time.Here's a list of all the currently available Thread-enabled Eve accessories:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Best regards, Volker
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Hi Volker, almost a year later any progress on the new light switch hardware to enable thread?- Reply
Hello Tim! It is almost there, just a litte patience please. Best regards, Volker- Reply
Hallo hat oder bekommt der Energy Strip auch Thread?- Reply
Hallo Peter! Die aktuelle Generation von Eve Energy Strip (EU) ist nicht für Thread vorbereitet. Wir werden im Verlaufe des Jahres neue Hardware-Generationen vieler Eve-Geräte mit Thread-Unterstützung veröffentlichen, können aber zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt noch leider keine weiteren Angaben dazu machen, wann dies für Eve Energy Strip (EU) der Fall sein wird.Hier ist eine Liste mit allen momentan verfügbaren Thread-fähigen Eve-Geräten:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Viele Grüße, Volker
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Hello there, I am interested in your LED strip and was wondering if thread will be available function for the LED strip?- Reply
Hello Huso! The current generation of Eve Light Strip is not ready for Thread. We will be releasing new hardware generations of many Eve devices with Thread support later this year, but unfortunately can't give any further details on when this will be the case for Eve Light Strip at this time.Here's a list of all the currently available Thread-enabled Eve accessories:
https://www.evehome.com/de/identify-your-eve-accessory
Best regards, Volker
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Hey Volker, Is there any ETA on a EU energy strip with thread? I kinda need one, but I am not going to buy one that will not support thread/matter. :)- Reply
Hello Arja, unfortunately I don't have an ETA for Eve Energy Strip with Thread support. Best regards, Volker- Reply
If I buy eve thermo now, will it later support thread or does it currently have a different hardware?- Reply
Hello Daniel! If you buy the Eve Thermo (2020) now you will get the firmware update needed for Thread later this year. Please check the model you buy, only the latest will get the update: https://www.evehome.com/en/identify-your-eve-accessoryBest regards, Volker